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Other than another alien Titan, the next big bad could be a genetically engineered Titan.

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Jack Capellini

Mothra LarvaeMember76 XPNov-05-2021 12:57 PM

During the meeting at Castle Bravo in KOTM, Dr. Graham states that Alan Jonah has been funding his group of Eco Terrorists by selling Titan DNA on the black market, and if you remember back before the scene where Emma Russel uses the ORCA to wake up Ghidorah in Antarctica, Alan Jonah and his crew steal some samples of his DNA while they are raiding the Monarch Outpost. Alan Jonah could still be in possession of that DNA from Outpost 31 after the events of KOTM. He may even already have some of DNA samples that he extracted from the two Ghidorah heads he had in his possession before he sold them to APEX (according to the GVK novelization).

Also, from what I’ve heard, there is a scene in Godzilla: Dominion where a group of mercenaries capture a Titan named Na Kika in an attempt to take some samples of her DNA before she is saved by Godzilla. Could this group be the Eco Terrorists that we saw in KOTM? If so, this scene implies that they have been attempting to get their hands on Titan DNA since the Mass Awakening.

If Alan Jonah returns in the future, maybe he’ll create a new super Titan using the DNA of Ghidorah and several other Titans. I think a scenario like this is very plausible, and seems like the next logical step for the MonsterVerse to go in. Godzilla has already fought two parasitic Titans (MUTOs), an invasive alien Titan who happens to be an ancient rival of his (Ghidorah), and a robotic doppelgänger that is possessed by one of his rival’s heads (Mechagodzilla). So why not introduce the concept of humanity creating a Bio-Titan (whether it be Biollante or an original creation)?

If we end up seeing a Bio-Titan in the MonsterVerse, it may either show up as a new adversary for Godzilla to fight in another sequel of his, or in a big ensemble film that has Godzilla, Kong, Mothra, Rodan, Behemoth, and all the other Titans teaming up to defeat it. This film would be a reboot of Destroy All Monsters.

TLDR: I believe the next big MonsterVerse villain will be a genetically engineered Titan that’s created by either APEX or the Eco Terrorists. It may either be Biollante or an original creation. The idea of creating a Bio-Titan seems like the next logical step in the MonsterVerse after we’ve had an alien Titan and a robo-Titan.

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89 Responses to Other than another alien Titan, the next big bad could be a genetically engineered Titan.

sonictiger

RodanMember1733 XPNov-05-2021 1:07 PMTeam Godzilla

Makes perfect sense.

Also yeah Madison Russell has dealt with aliens and robots, so a GMO is next probs.

“If anyone asks where I am, I’ve left the country.”

Xenotaris

GiganMember2944 XPNov-05-2021 1:40 PMTeam Mothra

If Legendary doesn't make an original kaiju then they could bring in Biollante, she is a rose hybridized with Godzilla and Human DNA or controversially Bagan, a Godzilla/Ghidorah hybrid.

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monsterzero9

TitanosaurusMember638 XPNov-05-2021 1:43 PMTeam Rodan

or they could bring in krystalack and have him be a mixure between goji, homo sapien, and, of course, krystals!

 

 

(or they could make sarunga......)

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-05-2021 2:05 PMTeam Ghidorah

monsterzero9

I want sarunga to stay in singular point, he fits into the very specific Hindu mythology of the show. Rather than monsterverses mythology.

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

monsterzero9

TitanosaurusMember638 XPNov-05-2021 3:59 PMTeam Rodan

.....hindu?

 

(i still dont understand singular point)

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-05-2021 4:25 PMTeam Ghidorah

monsterzero9

I didn’t figure it out on my own, someone I know had to point it out to me. There’s a lot of Hinduism in the series 

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-05-2021 4:26 PMTeam Ghidorah

On the physics side, i understand perfectly. But I wasn’t expecting the religious themes in the story

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

monsterzero9

TitanosaurusMember638 XPNov-05-2021 5:40 PMTeam Rodan

wow

sonictiger

RodanMember1733 XPNov-05-2021 6:02 PMTeam Godzilla

Better be ready, because Godzilla's now looking for his new foe....

 

 

“If anyone asks where I am, I’ve left the country.”

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-05-2021 6:47 PMTeam Ghidorah

sonictiger

“If anyone asks where I am, I’ve left the country.”


Which country did you leave?

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4386 XPNov-05-2021 7:56 PMTeam Ghidorah

The religious and scientific parallels in Singular Point are incredibly central to the story's themes. They really help make the show stand apart from other continuities while also driving home the comparative nature of religion and science found in the series since its inception--Particularly all of Honda's films.

I agree Salunga is too married to those themes to use haphazardly in other continuities. Much like I think Biollante doesn't work as well without Erika as a human component. Perhaps the monster doesn't need Erika specifically, but it needs some form of that humanity infused into its background.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

monsterzero9

TitanosaurusMember638 XPNov-05-2021 8:16 PMTeam Rodan

hinukagoji,

i left florida!

Xenotaris

GiganMember2944 XPNov-06-2021 2:06 PMTeam Mothra

G. H. (Gman) 

This isn't the first nor second time Toho allowed one of their kaiju to be missing a key character to its original creation when in the hands of another studio.

Godzilla and his connection to the atomic bomb

Mothra and her connection to divine motif and her fairy priestesses

King Ghidorah and his surviving human alien victims

Mechagodzilla and his original alien masters

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HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-06-2021 2:20 PMTeam Ghidorah

Xenotaris

But as said before, Sarunga is too married to Hinduism. It’s name sarunga, is based on Sharanga the bow of Vishnu. Theres too much mysticism in Godzilla and sarungas roles in the show, that if you take him out. He’s basically just Barbara again

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4386 XPNov-07-2021 1:08 AMTeam Ghidorah

Xenotaris,
Divisions, to varying degrees, I don't particularly care for.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Xenotaris

GiganMember2944 XPNov-07-2021 7:42 AMTeam Mothra

I was referring to Biollante's connection with Erika, it is inevitable that should Biollante be used again be that Toho, Legendary, Polygon, etc. Biollante would probably have a radical different backstory or suspiciously similar backstory to her Heisei incarnation.

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G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4386 XPNov-07-2021 8:47 AMTeam Ghidorah

Xenotaris,
As I mentioned, I don't think it has to specifically be Erika. But I do think a similar human element should be injected.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Xenotaris

GiganMember2944 XPNov-07-2021 9:32 AMTeam Mothra

Well I did say "Biollante, she is a rose hybridized with Godzilla and Human DNA" so the human part is still there.

What I am trying to say is she is a Human + Rose + Godzilla hybrid. Which is her character core much like Godzilla is a radioactive reptile of sorts, Rodan is a volcanic pterosaur, Mothra a benevolent divine moth and Ghidorah a mostly evil dragon that sometimes comes from space

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sonictiger

RodanMember1733 XPNov-07-2021 1:23 PMTeam Godzilla

HG, It's a Stranger Things quote.

“If anyone asks where I am, I’ve left the country.”

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-08-2021 9:00 AMTeam Ghidorah

sonictiger

I know that, but….

Did you leave canada

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-08-2021 9:03 AMTeam Ghidorah

Xenotaris

I don’t think polygon will get the Godzilla Franchise anymore.

Based on the reception of they’re last outing, I doubt toho would take that gamble, as the anime trilogy didn’t preform amazingly

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

Xenotaris

GiganMember2944 XPNov-08-2021 9:49 AMTeam Mothra

HinikunaGoji

I was just listing an example who worked on the godzilla IP, I would have also mentioned Tri-Star buuuuuut that is a HUGE sore spot for some fans

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SasquaDash

TitanosaurusMember686 XPNov-08-2021 10:08 AM

HinikunaGoji

In all honesty, it felt like Polygon didn't "get" the franchise even when they had access to it. It seemed like it was a giant monster trilogy that didn't want to be about giant monsters and it actively tried to avoid having the monsters in it. It seemed like they used the monsters begrudgingly, as if their involvement got in the way. They didn't even seem to understand the monsters that they used in the films, from turning Godzilla into a metallic plant, Mechagodzilla into a city, and Ghidorah into celestial tapeworms, they really seemed to not know what they were doing. That, along with the directors and writers essentially looking down at the the franchise and the fanbase, with some of them even stating how they didn't even bother to watch any of the movies because the felt it was "below them", it's honestly baffling as to why Toho would give them the rights to make anything involving Godzilla. Seriously, the 1998 film felt more inline with what Godzilla was, and that's saying something. People can say what they want about Legendary and the Monsterverse, they at least know what they're doing for the most part, and seem to get the franchise and the appeal of it.

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sonictiger

RodanMember1733 XPNov-08-2021 10:12 AMTeam Godzilla

HG, I didn't leave anywhere lol.

SD, Legendary only knows because they don't really rely on IP for the most part.

“If anyone asks where I am, I’ve left the country.”

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-08-2021 10:24 AMTeam Ghidorah

SasquaDash

I actually really like the concepts in the anime trilogy, I was more talking about the films finical success, but since we’re here….

I get everything about you’re complaints, but Godzilla Earth is amazing. I feel they nailed him. Even though it takes him 15 minutes to move an inch, he had a very good screen presence to me, and the themes (music and philosophy) really worked and resonated with me. He actually felt god like.

But Monsterverse has a better grasp of the franchise as a whole. They know how to introduce main kaiju in a generally satisfying way. 

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

sonictiger

RodanMember1733 XPNov-08-2021 10:38 AMTeam Godzilla

MonsterVerse just is amazing with it's intros

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HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-08-2021 10:59 AMTeam Ghidorah

sonictiger

I particularly love the intro to KOTM. Bear Mcrearys score was amazing. I saw the movie in IMAX when I first saw it, it was amazing

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4386 XPNov-08-2021 11:15 AMTeam Ghidorah

HinikunaGoji,
The anime trilogy has actually been cited as a success and it's not hard to surmise why. The theatrical releases were announced alongside the Netflix releases--Which sounds like a company trying to shoot itself in the foot. Why see a movie in theaters when you can just wait an extra month to see it on a streaming service? Add to the fact that the films were limited theatrical releases, the worldwide Netflix deal likely made Polygon/Toho buckets of money before they ever even hit theaters.

As for the trilogy itself, I'm glad some like minded people have re-evaluated it for the better. It expands reasons to watch the franchise instead of going through the same, humdrum, cookie-cutter routine we've seen for 67 years. I'm glad we've seen more experimentation with the franchise in that vein. The Monsterverse gets surface level tenants right, but for Hollywood, I guess that's all it can afford to do.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2692 XPNov-08-2021 11:26 AMTeam Ghidorah

G. H. (Gman)

I thought it did not well in the Japanese box office, but maybe I’m wrong.

Ive always liked the trilogy, even when it came out. But avoided the third film for a long time because of reveiws on it. But I got around to it and enjoyed it. 

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”  

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4386 XPNov-08-2021 11:39 AMTeam Ghidorah

HinikunaGoji,
They didn't do well at the Japanese Box Office, but, as usual, context is king. They were only released in 158-159 theaters and their theatrical releases were announced at the same time as the Netflix releases, which were only a month later. Compare that to the 366-448 theaters the other Godzilla films have opened in Japan since 2014 and that's a massive disadvantage.

Also note that audiences knew the movies would be on Netflix a month after the theatrical premieres and it's not a lot of incentive. Also recall Netflix spends hundreds of millions for the acquisiton of movies on their streaming service just for specific regions. A worldwide exclusive deal with Polygon/Toho would not have only made up for the production budgets, but made a hefty profit.

Essentially, it's most likely the anime trilogy made all of its money on Netflix--Which, to be fair, has proven to be a pretty easy model to make money off of. The theatrical releases were just so Toho could squeeze a few more pennies out of it.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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