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You think Son of Kong will be the next film?

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Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonDec-02-2021 11:33 AM

I’d say there’s a strong chance we’ll get a film about Kong and Monarch exploring the Hollow Earth to search for other Kongs at some point. Whether it’ll be about Kong raising another a younger Kong is uncertain though. 

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sonictiger

MemberGiganDec-02-2021 12:37 PM

No Son of Kong, but still Kong: Hollow Earth

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Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-02-2021 12:39 PM

Jack Capellini

Yes, but that’s just a working title. 

this is assuming it makes it past preproduction and previs 

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Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonDec-02-2021 12:59 PM

@HinkunaGoji: You make a good point. That’s why I said that Kong adopting a son is uncertain. Maybe the next film will be about Kong discovering a different species of Kongs in the Hollow Earth, but it won’t be about him adopting or having a son. If the creative team is planning another solo Kong film with this premise, then maybe they named this project “Son of Kong” to make easier to identify, and the title carries no meaning for the plot at all. 

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-02-2021 2:25 PM

Jack Capellini

I agree. It also could have been the working idea because it was a pitch thrown out there. 

This is how I’ve come to evision the project’s creation is that a king sequel was greenlit before an idea was solidly made. Son of Kong was just an idea thrown into ideas and became the working title. 

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7amey

MemberBaragonDec-02-2021 8:33 PM

Yeah, Kong: Hollow Earth makes more sense.

Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonDec-04-2021 4:14 PM

@HinikunaGoji: A month or two ago, Max Borenstein said that the creative team is throwing around ideas for multiple films going forward. Maybe “Son of Kong” was one of those ideas.

But that doesn’t mean all of those ideas are going to see the light of day. It’s too early to know what the future holds. For all we know, we may only get one or two more films and that’s it. 

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-04-2021 6:07 PM

Jack Capellini

As for an amount of future films, I noticed that Warner Brothers has been avoiding monsterverse announcements, while announcing about other projects. Like it announced Dune: Part Two, and a definite Monsterverse project hasn’t been announced for months now, either they have a big project or don’t have an idea yet.

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美しい

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-05-2021 9:25 AM

I don't know if they confirmed it, but I believe so.. 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-05-2021 1:13 PM

If we get to April without an announcement, there's a real possibility Legendary is done. The longer we go without hearing anything official, the less likely it will be.

Legendary has six films coming out in the next 2-3 years and 25 other films in development, none of which are Monsterverse titles. They've either cut it loose and found more viability in other projects or are prepping an announcement within the next 3-5 months.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-05-2021 8:01 PM

G. H. (Gman)

We also have silence from Toho as well, on any reference to monsterverse, no articles about anything yet.

Im beginning to worry Toho isn’t going to give the rights back.

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SasquaDash

MemberAnguirusDec-06-2021 6:05 AM

G. H. (Gman)

Except they've stated that there are future instalments being developed and they announced that an animated Skull Island show for Netflix is in development/production, so the MonsterVerse isn't exactly over. It looks like, at the very least, they're going to continue the series with Kong, Toho and Godzilla's involvement is the only thing that's uncertain at the moment.

Just because they haven't fully announced future movies yet, doesn't mean that the series is over.

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-06-2021 9:54 AM

SasquaDash

That leads me to wonder about the skull island show, will it be pre GvK or Post.

Post doesn’t seem like an option but I feel an idea of saving skull island, or restoring could be interesting.

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SasquaDash

MemberAnguirusDec-06-2021 10:14 AM

HinikunaGoji

Based on the plot description stating that the show will focus on a group of characters shipwrecked on the island and trying to survive and escape, it will might take place before the events of Kong: Skull Island, since Monarch has had a presence on Skull Island since 1995, and it wouldn't make sense to have it take place between 1944 and 1973, as it would clash with Hank Marlow's story and Monarch's first expedition. My best guess is that it might focus on the Wanderer ship, which was briefly brought up in Kong: Skull Island as shipwrecking on the island around 10 years before Marlow arrived. 

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."

Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonDec-06-2021 11:34 AM

@SasquaDash: How many more films do you think we’ll see? 

SasquaDash

MemberAnguirusDec-06-2021 12:21 PM

Jack Capellini

It's hard to tell. There are statements from Legendary mentioning that there'll be a couple of new instalments, so it's possible that we probably get at least two movies along with the Skull Island Netflix show. For the most part it seems like we'll get a couple of instalments centered around Kong, however it's currently unknown if, or how Godzilla will be involved or if Legendary will renew the contract with Toho.

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."

Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonDec-06-2021 1:03 PM

Here’s what I think we’ll get…

1. Godzilla graphic novels

2. Kong graphic novels

3. Mothra and Rodan graphic novels (possibly?)

4. Skull Island anime

5. Titan War anime (possibly?) 

6. Kong 2

7. Kong 3

8. Godzilla 3 (possibly?)

9. Destroy All Monsters/Godzilla and Kong team up

I’m now feeling conflicted on if we’ll get another Godzilla solo film. Since the last Godzilla film underperformed, Legendary may decide to have Godzilla show up alongside Kong in a future film. Kong has made more money than Godzilla so far, so maybe Legendary will opt to have Kong be the future of the MonsterVerse with Godzilla showing every now and than. 

As for the future of Mothra and Rodan, if we get another Godzilla film, I think at least Mothra will return, and at most, we’ll see both monsters return. If we don’t get another Godzilla film, they’ll probably return in a Destroy All Monsters film. I doubt they’ll get any solo films. Legendary may decide to expand on their characters in future comics and graphic novels. 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-06-2021 3:03 PM

SasquaDash,
Nothing is actively in development though. They've just mentioned they've kicked some ideas around. The closest we have to an official word is from Borenstein saying there are, "exciting things that are happening" and he's not even actively involved anymore.

Though, as you and HinikunaGoji say, indeed Toho may be the holdout. But given the box office of Godzilla's last solo Monsterverse flick, especially in comparison to the Kong titles, I wonder if Legendary thinks dealing with them is worth the investment.

Toho probably wasn't too thrilled with how GvK did in Japan either.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

sonictiger

MemberGiganDec-06-2021 3:16 PM

Well the delta variant is who we need to thank for that one.

 

Listen, Toho will probably only give Legendary one more chance if they haven't parted ways already.  Also, they're going to have to find a way to get people in seats because saying that Millie Bobby Brown is in the movie won't cut it.

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Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonDec-06-2021 3:57 PM

@sonictiger: As the reception of the last few movies in this universe have shown, a lot of people (unfortunately) don’t care for the human characters. So if we end up getting one more film instead of another slew of them, it might sacrifice the human story again to elevate the monster story. 

SasquaDash

MemberAnguirusDec-06-2021 5:06 PM

G. H. (Gman)

Unfortunately, the pandemic has changed a lot for filmmaking. Just because they haven't fully announced that a movie is in development doesn't mean that something isn't being worked on. I think stating that the MonsterVerse might not continue because they haven't made any big announcements yet is a bit ridiculous. With that logic you could argue that Season 2 of Singular Point won't happen because Toho hasn't fully announced it yet.

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-06-2021 10:28 PM

SasquaDash,
Yes, but the Japanese film industry is far better at keeping a secret than the American film industry which has a much larger market for "insiders". (Shin Godzilla was in development as early as March, 2013. News broke it was coming December, 2014. Singular Point was in active production for two years before news leaked five months prior to its premier. Alternatively, it was reported that Legendary bought the Godzilla license in 2010--A whopping four years before its release.)

Many Hollywood movies, supposedly in development, that go on for a year without announcement usually aren't happening. Obviously the hope is we're not quite there yet, but consider Legendary's track record: Dune's sequel was greenlit the weekend of its release. "Godzilla 2" and "Godzilla 3" (which now seem to be Godzilla: King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs. Kong) were announced two days after Godzilla '14 opened. The one anomaly was Pacific Rim: Uprising which was caught in a behind-the-scenes crossfire with Legendary's partnership transition from WB to Universal.

The film industry may have indeed changed in the way it distributes content, true. But if Sony's knee jerk announcement of three more Spider-Man movies is anything to go on, one thing that hasn't changed is the mad dash to produce money-making content and capitalize on immediate hype for IP.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

sonictiger

MemberGiganDec-07-2021 12:56 PM

Considering how GVK is one of 2021's top grossers domestically, Legendary and WB will most likely be clamoring for Toho to work with them again.

Also on the Spider-Man bit this goes to show how studios are willing to do anything with money even though the MCU is getting dangerously close to suffering franchise fatigue.

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Xenotaris

MemberGiganDec-07-2021 4:11 PM

I hope the MCU and Live Action Disney Remakes gets franchise fatigue because other more deserving movies need to shine

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sonictiger

MemberGiganDec-07-2021 7:45 PM

OHNONONONONO hopefully no fatigue sets in

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-07-2021 8:41 PM

The top 3 2021 movies at the domestic box office are Marvel films. A fourth sits at #7. Three of these titles are also in the top 10 world wide lists for 2021. All of this and Spider-Man: No Way Home has yet to premiere and inevitably claim the top spot. Meanwhile, Hawkeye is getting rave reviews.

If the MCU is close to "franchise fatigue" no one is noticing.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

sonictiger

MemberGiganDec-07-2021 9:12 PM

At least when it comes to fan reception that is...

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Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-07-2021 9:51 PM

sonictiger

Just saying I don’t think the Japanese audience is too invested in American celebrities like Brown. So I don’t think your point is right, saying that she’s in it here would particularly work. 

Xenotaris

Honestly it lost a bit of steam in COVID era, most people I know didn’t really watch  Wandavision, it was more like another one. Externals didn’t do so great either, but Shang Chi was AMAZING. I want to see more Asian inspired world building.

This is also an opportunity for me to plug what I consider the best movie of 2021,       DUNE. Seriously love it, Villeneuve seems to actually have a grasp of the message of the book based on his comments and handling in the movie.

;)

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