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If Given the Chance, How Would You Remake the MonsterVerse?

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Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonDec-27-2021 12:07 PM

How would you make the MonsterVerse if you were in charge? 

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-27-2021 12:09 PM

Go back to original tokusatsu.
Make it a Japanese production.
Put it in Kiyotaka Taguchi's hands.
Focus on individual stories.
Screw world building.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-27-2021 12:28 PM

G. H. (Gman)

I wouldn’t completely get rid of world building but I think consistency in what the monsters are would be nice

 

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-27-2021 12:49 PM

HinikunaGoji,
I guess I should clarify. Internal world building I don't mind. But I'm pretty over the whole "cinematic universe" thing. It was cool at first, but after all the world expanding/nostalgia baiting going on in films, I'd be much happier with the reduced world building we see in, say GMK or the Gamera Trilogy. Or even the Kiryu Saga.

I get that the Showa series' fly off the seat of your pants canon won't work today. But we've gone a little too far with the continuity thing.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-27-2021 1:46 PM

G. H. (Gman)

I what meant in it is that KOTM and G14/KSI treated monsters differently. While  14 and KSI portrayed them as animals and such, KOTM and GvK tried to heavily reframe them as mythical. And while I get giant animals could inspire myth, literally having Mothra in the temple was weird. It was cool, but it didn’t quite fit. It felt to perfect and not like an animal. Monsterverse keeps trying to flip flop from science to divine creatures that it’s really inconsistent in tone. 

Honestly I’d like to see a god Godzilla, and The polygon trilogy and Singular Point gave us that. But G14 had a nice tone going for it, having a Godzilla leaning more into a Fantastique world would be nicer.

expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-27-2021 1:57 PM

HinikunaGoji,
I had no issue with the shifting tones of how the monsters are treated. The Showa series did it to, albeit, more gracefully.

I've always felt they were too consistent. I don't particularly care for the idea that they come from the Hollow Earth. Giving them all the same origin instead of allowing them to be unique byproducts of human arrogance reduces what the monsters can say about us thematically. Which is kind of the point to begin with.

I don't want kaiju being animals. I want them being monsters--Which is a mirror for humanity. In that respect I certainly agree with your last paragraph.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganDec-27-2021 3:51 PM

G. H. (Gman)

I think saying animals was an exaggeration so I understand. I just don’t like the flippety floppety nature of the monsterverse at this point. It’s not really something I get excited about anymore. It doesn’t really have to be Godzilla anymore is the thing. I mean I don’t dislike the way they’ve portrayed him up to this point, it’s just the monsterverse seems so caught up on being marvel it forgot it was about Godzilla. 

I know I’ve said before that Godzilla movies should be able to work without him, but I mean this in a different way, Monsterverse has gotten generic to me. It hasn’t try anything new that hooks my interest. If it continues (which if it does, I don’t expect Goji) and Goji is still in it, I’d probably go watch it, but other than that my excitement is dead at this point. It’s like marvel, fun, but I don’t really think about it. Sometimes can be really good and has a great message but not thought provoking in any way. It tries to seem epic, by having epic events and has so much, but forgets that being epic and pretending are different things.

Its literally at the point where people ask, “Wouldn’t it be CoOL If BIoLante we’re in new films. And the only response is “Sure.” Any elaboration beyond that seems pointless to me.

Another thing I’ve noticed is Monsterverse feels finished, Wingard really nailed this in. I think it was a good choice, GvK didn’t get caught up in trying to be a Cinematic Universe, but just threw monsters at each other. That ending just ended it. 

Oh well this just ended up into a rant about my frustrations with the Goji franchise at this point. It seems what most people want from it is a fun fight, but that’s not what I wanted

expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

sonictiger

MemberGiganDec-27-2021 6:21 PM

- Longer movies

- Get actually good scriptwriters

- Horror Directors only

- No World-Building, just an anthology-based cinematic universe

- Involve both US and Japanese people in the making of the movie

- Make actually good human characters

- And finally, keep Millie Bobby Brown and Ken Wantanabe but replace EVERYONE ELSE.

 

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Trash panda

MemberAnguirusDec-27-2021 7:26 PM

Well, I feel like maybe get one of the Marvel producer’s like the Russo brothers for a Monsterverse film

Actually make the human characters interesting and not like they have to be their. Like I enjoyed MBB in GvK, but it made me feel like I was watching Stranger Things, which I don’t want to think about or be reminded of while watching a film about giant monsters fighting

Keep Eiza Gonzalez in it

and like sonictiger said, involve both Japanese and American actors or have actors from different backgrounds and cultures 

Ah shit I’m using my wrong eye again. Sorry that was meant to be behind your back

7amey

MemberBaragonDec-27-2021 8:58 PM

I would keep Gareth Edwards for more films.

sonictiger

MemberGiganDec-28-2021 9:46 AM

I technically meant have both Japanese and American filmmakers team up, but that works too.

“Calling yourself a hero make you a self-mythologizing narcissistic autocrat!”

Trash panda

MemberAnguirusDec-28-2021 1:58 PM

Ah, ok

Ah shit I’m using my wrong eye again. Sorry that was meant to be behind your back
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