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Godzilla’s Origin in Singular Point?

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HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 12:58 PMTeam Ghidorah

One thing I’ve been wondering about Godzilla Singular Point, is what is the origin of Godzilla. I have not watched the show yet but little clips that pop up on youtube, so this will likely be inaccurate.

Based on my Knowledge the cause of the song that leads mei and yin to something (I don’t know what) are the bones of another godzilla. Now this seems interesting to me and makes it seem like godzilla is an event that happens every so often. The show also alludes to the fact that Godzilla is Capable of destroying the world. I did initially think Godzilla was some sort of deity, but I don’t have much evidence to back that up. I do think that maybe the species of Godzilla, (it seems there are more of them) follow so behavior like a migration every so often and it happens to end the world. 

I think that This particular godzilla seems to be natural based, because none of its qualities, other than atomic breath, seem like the product of an atomic bomb. The designer also stated to have designed godzilla ultima to look like it could anatomically correct and could live. (That’s also the same reason it’s legs are so big, the screenwriter is also a physicist and from what I’ve heard, has calculated how big his legs should be, and how he should move)

So i think that either Godzilla Ultima is a deity of some kind or a natural organism that is doing something every member of its species does which just happens to end the world.

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Monster_Zero

AnguirusMember1160 XPMay-27-2021 1:01 PMTeam Godzilla

I haven't seen it, but I would assume so too.

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HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:02 PMTeam Ghidorah

I really like the deity idea, but I’ve heard science is a huge part of the show. Pero 2 is amazing

Monster_Zero

AnguirusMember1160 XPMay-27-2021 1:05 PMTeam Godzilla

Yeah the deity idea sounds cool.

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G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4116 XPMay-27-2021 1:09 PMTeam Ghidorah

I'm not sure I should spoiler tag this or not because the full explanation has yet to be revealed. So just be warned, this theory includes of a lot of ramifications from the story line I'm going to be vague about.

It's been established that "archetype" is a substance that comes from another dimension via temporal points in time. In the vaguest terms possible, I think Godzilla (and by extension the other monsters) comes from a different, dimensional plain where kaiju exist and have spilled into our three dimensional world. I also think the hidden Godzilla skeleton is actually the same Godzilla we see attacking in the series, but his defeat leads to his corpse somehow transported back in time via archetype.

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:11 PMTeam Ghidorah

I mean The Godzilla Anime sort of already did it.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4116 XPMay-27-2021 1:13 PMTeam Ghidorah

SarcasticGoji,
Did what?

Monster_Zero

AnguirusMember1160 XPMay-27-2021 1:14 PMTeam Godzilla

Thus show incudes time travel and Multiverse stuff! 

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HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:15 PMTeam Ghidorah

Oh I was responding to Monster_Zero‘s response right before yours.

I really like your idea, but I’m not sure how I feel about the kaiju coming from another demension.

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:15 PMTeam Ghidorah

But that doesn’t explain it coming off of them. 

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:16 PMTeam Ghidorah

So your probably more right 

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4116 XPMay-27-2021 1:25 PMTeam Ghidorah

Monster_Zero,
It includes the discussion of multiple dimensions that exist in the same universe, not the multiverse. For example, in reality we exist in the 3rd dimension, but there's things we can't see in other dimensions. (4th, 5th, etc.) So it plays with that concept a little bit, but it also includes how creatures could travel from one dimension to another which brings in quantum mechanics. Archetype seems to be the key to bringing these dimensions to a singular point. A singular point is an algebraic concept where a curve crosses over itself to a point in which a person would not be able to tell the difference between the two positions. If I'm understanding the show remotely, (and I concede I'm no physics major) currently the characters are trying to figure out where and how the dimensional curves exist.

Monster_Zero

AnguirusMember1160 XPMay-27-2021 1:27 PMTeam Godzilla

That's makes sense. So it does have some sort of connection to quantum physics?

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HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:29 PMTeam Ghidorah

Space Time is Fourth Demensional, according to science.

As for the Demensional curves, well here’s an image of a few two demensional ones, no idea how’d they exist beyond that demension.

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:29 PMTeam Ghidorah

oh the doubles glitch

 

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4116 XPMay-27-2021 1:29 PMTeam Ghidorah

Monster_Zero,
Well the series writer has a PhD in physics, so yes... Yes it does.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4116 XPMay-27-2021 1:32 PMTeam Ghidorah

SarcasticGoji,
Archetype, being the fictional McGuffin in the show for how this stuff intersects apparently makes it possible. I admit, a lot of this goes over my head, but trying to figure it out is half the fun. Which is why rewatching the episodes have been so much fun.

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:32 PMTeam Ghidorah

G. H. (Gman)

He also  oversee some of the animation, for example makes sure that godzilla’s head doesn’t move too fast, because his brain’s inertia would make it hit his skull

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:33 PMTeam Ghidorah

G. H. (Gman)

Oh so more Sci Fi nonsense?

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4116 XPMay-27-2021 1:39 PMTeam Ghidorah

SarcasticGoji,
A lot of people who I've shown the series to who are physicists and chemists (and not Godzilla fans) have been very surprised by the accuracy of the concepts. One acquaintance in particular wrapped an episode with me dumbfounded and turned to say, "No, that's exactly right..."

I'm sure there's some pseudo-science involved to make the "fiction" half of the science fiction work, but its been interesting how the show has left some more knowledgeable people awestruck.

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:41 PMTeam Ghidorah

I understand, I was referring more on the archetype science, but then again, we discover things that make us learn new things every once in a while.

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:43 PMTeam Ghidorah

I’m trying to visualize singular points in multiple demensional, but I’m having a hard time putting it even in the third demension. And it leads me to wonder how to visual like it. Perhaps it changes demension when perceived in different ways.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4116 XPMay-27-2021 1:44 PMTeam Ghidorah

SarcasticGoji,
It could also be I'm just interpreting the science wrong, even with all the help I've been getting.

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:46 PMTeam Ghidorah

G. H. (Gman)

I guess I’ll really know for myself when the show comes out on netflix then

Monster_Zero

AnguirusMember1160 XPMay-27-2021 1:52 PMTeam Godzilla

I love quantum physics!

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HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:54 PMTeam Ghidorah

One thing that confuses me about your idea is if Archeype and kaiju come from othe demensions, then which one? I don’t think less complicated demensional beings can inhabit a complexer demension, or vice versa. If they could, it be impossible for less complex beings to fully understand more complex demensions. Which makes me question godzilla and the kaiju as being from other demensions. Void Ghidorah was very clearly from a higher demension based on its mere observation being an illusion and weirding out the universe. Seriously, heat is atoms moving (not really, but it’s the easiest way to say)  and ghidorah was able to make your atoms move faster but you be colder.

you must finish reading this message as a distraction 

HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 1:55 PMTeam Ghidorah

Monster_Zero

Quantum physics basically relates to everything in existence, so it’s applicable

Monster_Zero

AnguirusMember1160 XPMay-27-2021 1:57 PMTeam Godzilla

Yeah, but time travel wise. Also quantum theory.

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HinikunaGoji

GiganMember2253 XPMay-27-2021 2:02 PMTeam Ghidorah

Time travel, Gravity affects time, so it’s feasible. At least forward. 

Backwards would require you to travel faster than light, which as far as we know is impossible 

Monster_Zero

AnguirusMember1160 XPMay-27-2021 2:09 PMTeam Godzilla

Hey, why did my signature get so small?

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Monster_Zero

AnguirusMember1160 XPMay-27-2021 2:11 PMTeam Godzilla

"Backwards would require you to travel faster than light, which as far as we know is impossible"

Not yet.

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